Tuesday, July 18, 2006

Verses from the Holy Kuran that preach violence

I said yesterday in this post titled Modi says terrorists have no religion that "Islamic terrorists do have a religion, and they follow it very carefully. If you read the Koran, you will understand this. Every act of killing, rape, kidnapping, terror and mayhem the Islamic terrorists commit is committed because the Koran very explicitly calls for acts of such kind. It is useless to deny the truth."

Since I published this post, I have received more than a few responses from some of my dear Readers by email.

While a few of them expressed outrage at my having made such a bald statement outright, the vast majority politely requested me to substantiate my statement by providing reasons backing up my claim.

In this post, I will present before you, my dear Reader, a collection of verses from the Holy Kuran (and a few more from a few other Islamic sacred texts) -- with all due respect to Prophet Muhammad and Allah and all other Gods that may or may not exist -- that seem to clearly preach violence against non-Muslims.

While Islam is called a "religion of peace" by some people, the peace as Islam sees it comes only after all the people have been converted to Islam. As long as there are "non-believers" or "infidels", the Koran very clearly, explicitly, unequivocally, says that there can be no peace.

I will let you read the verses yourself and draw your own conclusions. I encourage you to verify the information I present below by picking up a copy of the Holy Kuran yourself and making sure that I am not lying, or misrepresenting facts in any way.

Before I proceed, please understand my motivations. DO NOT THINK I am an Islam-basher, or Islamophobe.

I am not anti-Islam. I am not against Muslims. Indeed, I got all this information from a Muslim friend of mine. A friend who has read the Kuran and is unable to agree with what it says.

What he told me has been told before, by people like Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasreen, Theo van Gogh, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and many others. All of them have paid a high price for their actions.

Salman Rushdie lives in perpetual fear of death. A Fatwa calling for his death issued by the Ayatollah Khomenei of Iran hangs over his head.

Taslima Nasreen was forced to escape from her own country Bangladesh, was denied political asylum by the spineless leaders of Hindu-majority but Islam-fearing India, and now lives in hiding in exile. Her troubles started after she wrote the book "Lajja" in 1993 drawing attention to the torture and persecution of Hindu minority in Bangladesh. The Government of Bangladesh confiscated her passport to prevent her from escaping the country.

She compounded her problems in 1994 when she said in an interview to Indian newspaper The Statesman saying that "... the Koran should be revised thoroughly." She received death threats and the Bangladeshi government, instead of protecting her, accused her of hurting the religious feelings of people and issued a warrant for her arrest. Afraid that she would be killed in jail, Taslima went into hiding, and after a very tense couple of months when she was in great danger, managed to escape the country.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali made a film "Submission" directed by Theo van Gogh, highlighting the persecution of women in Islamic cultures. She lives under the constant shadow of death.

The Director of her film Theo van Gogh was murdered in 2004 by a Islamic fundamentalist called Mohammed Bouyeri.

The list of people who have tried to alert Humanity to the dangers posed by the totalitarian ideology represented by Islam is very long. For more details, you might want to look at this manifesto.

We live in dangerous times. If you discuss what I am going to present below with people who may be sympathetic to fundamentalist Islam, be very careful. A lot of moderate and progressive Muslims have already paid with their lives for speaking out openly against these problems with Islam, and I strongly urge you to take all possible precautions to make sure that you do not join them.

India's doddering old stupid and foolish "leaders" do not understand just how dangerous this ideology is. With the unlimited destructive potential allowed by modern technology at its disposal, this ideology can destroy the Civilized world as we know it and take us back to the Middle Ages.

That is why it is imperative that we calmly and coolly read and understand what this ideology says.

I hope you agree now that I AM NOT anti-Muslim. I AM NOT anti-Islam.

I am pro-Humanity. Humanity faces a grave danger today from fundamentalist totalitarian Islam, a danger whose seriousness very few people understand.

I am simply presenting facts to you for you to make your own decision.

Here are the facts as follows. I present to you a collection of verses from the Holy Kuran (and a few more from a few other sacred Islamic texts) dictating how good Muslims who want to be loved by Allah should go about their daily lives on a variety of subjects, including dealing with people of other religions, vanquished enemies, women, among other subjects.

IV.138: Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor will He guide them to the right way.

IV.89: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

IV.92: And it does not behoove a believer to kill a believer except by mistake, and whoever kills a believer by mistake, he should free a believing slave, and blood-money should be paid to his people unless they remit it as alms; but if he be from a tribe hostile to you and he is a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (suffices), and if he is from a tribe between whom and you there is a covenant, the blood-money should be paid t! o his people along with the freeing of a believing slave; but he who cannot find (a slave) should fast for two months successively: a penance from Allah, and Allah is Knowing, Wise.

XVI.8: It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, and if you (again return to disobedience) We too will return (to punishment), and We have made hell a prison for the unbelievers.

II.161: Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all;

IX. 5-6: Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them.

IV.76: Those who believe fight in the cause of God.

IV.74: Let those who fight in the cause of God who barter the life of this world for that which is to come; for whoever fights on God's path, whether he is killed or triumphs, We will give him a handsome reward.

VIII.39-42: Say to the Infidels: if they desist from their unbelief, what is now past shall be forgiven; but if they return to it, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's.

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (Koran 98:1-8)

A Muslim may not be killed if he kills a non-Muslim (Al Bukhari Vol 9:50)

Fight against those who believe not in Allah, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth [Islam], until they are subdued. (Surat At-Taubah 9:29)

Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.
Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

(It will be said) Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in God the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat. (Koran 69:30-37)

Idolatry is more grievous than bloodshed... fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme" (Sura 2:91-93).

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk." [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11]

(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah; and these are the inmates of the fire; therein they shall abide. 3.116

Fight against those who believe not in Allah, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth [Islam], until they are subdued. Surat At-Taubah 9:29

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. (Koran 2: 98)

"The unbelievers schemed against Allah, and Allah schemed against them; and Allah is the best schemer." (The Family of Imran: 54)

Allah plots against unbelievers. (The Morning Star: 15)

Allah has cursed them (the Jews) on account of their unbelief; so little it is that they believe. (Koran 2:88)

"The worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the ungrateful who will not believe." (Spoils of War: 55)

There is disgraceful punishment for the unbelievers. (Koran 2:90)

Mohammed said, “The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them.” (Mishkat Al Masabih Sh.M. Ashraf pp.147, 721, 810-11, 1130)

[4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan (Satan). Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

[4:101] ...surely the unbelievers are your open enemy.

[4:102] ...surely Allah has prepared a disgraceful chastisement for the unbelievers.

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[48:29] Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves

[4.92] Anyone who kills a believer intentionally will have his reward in hell, to remain there. God will be angry with him and curse him, and prepare awful torment for him.
(Note that thus, right to life only applies to believers)

[9.73] O Prophet! strive hard [make war] against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.

Abu Bakr, the first Caliph, is reported as saying in the Hadith: "I have been ordered to fight the people until they profess that there is no god but God and that Mohammad is the messenger of God"

The curse of God on the infidels! 2:83

God is an enemy to infidels. 2:92

Whoever offers violence to you, offer you the like violence to him.

Men are a step above women. 2:228

Fight for the cause of God. 2:245

God loves no infidel. 2:276

God, you are our protector: give us victory therefore over the infidel
nations. 2:286

As for the infidels, their wealth, and their children, shall avail them
nothing against God. 3:8

Say to the infidels: you shall be worsen, and to Hell shall you be gathered together; and wretched the couch! 3:10

Let not believers take infidels for their friends rather than believers:
whoso shall do this has nothing to hope from God. 3:27

God loves not the unbelievers.

Whoso desires any other religion than Islam, that religion shall
never be accepted from him, and in the next world he shall be
among the lost. 3:79

O ye who have believed!! form not intimacies among others than
yourselves. They will not fail to corrupt you. They long for your
ruin. Hatred has already shown itself out of their mouths, but
more grievous is what their breasts conceal. 3:114

O you who have believed! If you obey the infidels, they will cause you to turn upon your heels, and you will fall back into perdition. 3:142

And if you shall be slain or die on the path of God, then pardon from God and mercy is better than all your amassings; For if you die or be slain, verily unto God shall you be gathered. 3:151,2

And repute not those slain on God's path to be dead. Nay, alive with their Lord, are they richly sustained. 3:163

And they who have fled their country and quitted their homes and suffered in my cause, and have fought and fallen, I will blot out their sins from them, and I will bring them into gardens beneath which the streams do flow. 3:194

Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which
God has gifted the one above the other. 4:38

but if women are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against
them. 4:38

If you be sick, or on a journey, or have come from the unclean place
or have touched a woman, and you find not water, then rub pure
sand, and bathe your face and your hands with it. 4:46

Among the Jews are those who displace the words of their scriptures, and say, We have heard, and we have not obeyed. Hear you, but as one that hears not; and look at us; perplexing with their tongues, and wounding the Faith by their revilings. But if they would say, We have heard, and we obey; hear you, and regard us; it were better for them, and more right. But God has cursed them for their unbelief. Few only of them are believers. 4:48,9

Let those then fight on the path of God, who barter this present life for that which is to come; for whoever fights! on God's path, whether he be slain or conquer, we will in the end give him a great reward. 4:77

They who believe, fight on the path of God; and they who believe not fight on the path of Thagout: Fight therefore against the friends of Satan. 4:78

God has assigned to those who contend earnestly with their persons and with their substance, a rank above those who sit at home. Goodly promises has He made to all. But God has assigned to the strenuous a rich recompense, above those who sit still at home. 4:97

Verily, the infidels are your undoubted enemies! 4:102

O believers! Take not infidels for friends rather than believers. Would you furnish God with clear right to punish you? 4:143

The male shall have the portion of two females. 4:175

And if you have become unclean, then purify yourselves. But if you
are sick, or on a journey, of if one of you come from the place of
retirement, of if you have touched women, and you find no water,
then take clean sand and rub your faces and you hands with it. 5:9

O Believers! Take not the Jews or Christians as friends. They are
but one another's friends. If any one of you takes them for his friends, he surely is one of them! 5:56

Of all men you will certainly find the Jews, and those who join other gods with God, to be the most intense in hatred of those who believe; and you shall certainly find those to be nearest in affection to them who say, We are Christians.' This, because some of them are priests
and monks, and because they are free from pride. 5:85

Fight then against them until strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's. 8:40

And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who join other gods with God wherever you shall find them; and seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush: but if they shall convert, and observe prayer, and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their way. 9:5

Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth. 9:29

But alms are only to be given to the poor and the needy, and those who collect them, and to those whose hearts are won to Islam. 9:60

O Prophet! Contend against the infidels and the hypocrites, and be rigorous with them. 9:74

Never pray you over anyone of them who dies, or stand at his grave, because they believed not in God and His Apostle, and died in their wickedness. 9:85

But the Apostle and those who share his faith, contend for the faith with purse and person; and these! All good things await them: and these are they who shall be happy. 9:89

Verily, of the faithful has God bought their persons and their substance, on condition of Paradise for them in return: on the path of God shall they fight, and slay, and be slain: a promise for this is pledged in the Law, and in the Evangel, and in the Koran; and who more faithful to his engagement than Rejoice, therefore, in the contract that you contracted: for this shall be the great bliss. 9:112

Believers! wage war against such of the infidels as are your neighbors, and let them find you rigorous. 9:124

God loves not the false, the Infidel. 22:39

Give not way therefore to the Infidels, but by means ot this Koran strive against them with a mighty strife. 25:54

Be not you helpful to the unbelievers. 28:86

9.38: O you who believe! What (excuse) have you that when it is said to you: Go forth in Allah's way, you should incline heavily to earth; are you contented with this world's life instead of the hereafter? But the provision of this world's life compared with the hereafter is but little.

9.39: If you do not go forth, He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you, and you will do Him no harm; and Allah has power over all things.

48.16: Say to those of the dwellers of the desert who were left behind: You shall soon be invited (to fight) against a people possessing mighty prowess; you will fight against them until they submit; then if you obey, Allah will grant you a good reward; and if you turn back as you turned back before, He will punish you with a painful punishment.

4.140: And indeed He has revealed to you in the Book that when you hear Allah's communications disbelieved in and mocked at do not sit with them until they enter into some other discourse; surely then you would be like them; surely Allah will gather together the hypocrites and the unbelievers all in hell.

7.36: And (as for) those who reject Our communications and turn away from them haughtily -- these are the inmates of the fire they shall abide in it.

72.23: (It is) only a delivering (of communications) from Allah and His messages; and whoever disobeys Allah and His Apostle surely he shall have the fire of hell to abide therein for a long time.

98.6: Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book and the polytheists shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men.

22.19: These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire, boiling water shall be poured over their heads.

22.20: With it shall be melted what is in their bellies and (their) skins as well.

22.21: And for them are whips of iron.

22.22: Whenever they will desire to go forth from it, from grief, they shall be turned back into it, and taste the chastisement of burning.

47.4: So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.

5.82: Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.

4.56: (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

This is just a small collection of verses of the kind I am talking about. Many more can be found in the Kuran. If you can spare the time to take a look at it, you will be able to see for yourself, and I strongly urge you to do so.

Only with that knowledge will you achieve a full understanding of the seriousness of the threat posed to modern secular liberal societies by this totalitarian medieval ideology.

If you do not have the time to read the Kuran, but would like some more information about the dangerous verses it contains, you may want to look at this article on the Faith Freedom website.


At 12:45 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

good work just any indian politican read it and for mankind stop this dirty politics of fevoring muslims.
I dont know about humanity and other world but i just worrying about the my people and india.

At 1:04 am, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

Dear Anonymous,

Thank you very much for your response.

I agree with you. My prayers are with India and our people too.

God Bless India.

Jai Hind !


At 8:57 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

thnx man , i had no idea that such rules existed in islam , i was clueless why many people following islam ended up becoming violent , going to the lengths of killing someone .U HAVE MADE IT PRETTY LUCID FOR ME .

At 8:58 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

thnx man , i had no idea that such rules existed in islam , i was clueless why many people following islam ended up becoming violent , going to the lengths of killing someone .U HAVE MADE IT PRETTY LUCID FOR ME .

At 6:16 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excerpt from An exegesis on ‘Jihad in Islam’:

B. What Qur’an Says about Jihad?

Jihad was mentioned in the Qur’an most frequently with the meaning of "warfare,” often coupled with "fi sabil Allah" (in the way of Allah). Jihad as warfare is a pivotal concern for the Qur’an, the Hadith and the Shari‘ah which we shall explore later in this essay.

All most all the hateful, coercive, intimidating and tempting verses in the Quran were made in respect to the Jihad—Holy war.

Important to note: Prophet Muhammad while he was in Mecca did not have too many supporters; hence, he was very weak in power compare to the Pagans. It was at that time he brought some soft verses (maximum one dozen in the whole Qur’an) which our hypocritical Islamists use them to elude the truth of Islam. But in Medina Muhammad quickly assumed both religious and political power and leadership over the whole Median community. It was at that time he brought all those harsh/hateful (several hundreds of them) Qur’anic verses just to incite his followers to fight.

In the Holy Qur’an one can find hundreds of verses (Ayats) which dictates to fight holy wars (Jihad) against non-Muslims infidels. Let me cite here a few of them:

Qur’an-(9:5): “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, And seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) ; but if they repent (accept Islam) and establish regular prayers and practices regular charity then open the way for them; for God is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.”

Qur’an-(8:65): “ O Apostle ! Rouse the believers to the fight, if there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering , they will vanquish two hundred; if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the unbelievers; for these are a people without understanding.”

At 8:49 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scary stuff.. I had read in a few places Islam is a religion tht was spread by blood and sword ... Now,its provedd its indeed true..

The most catchy of all ' Islam is a religion of Peace, after all the non-islamic people are abolished' ..

Unbeleivable, how a religion has such agendas ..

At 3:25 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a load of bull. No religion preaches hatred of any sort. Including Islam.

You can take anything that anyone or any book says totally out of context and twist it to mean anything.

In fact, by thinking this way you are no different from the extremists who are hijacking religions to their own aims and purposes.

In the time when islam was not even born the christians were killing all and sundry with their crusades. Just because communication wasnt as good as it is today we conveniently overlook that.

By propagating these views you are now an honorary member of all the extremist organisations.

At 4:32 am, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

Oh, really ! I am "twisting the meaning" of the verses ?

Can you please tell us then, what other meanings do verses like "Slay them wherever you find them", "smite their necks and their fingers", "Allah will terrorize the unbelievers", etc can have ?

If I am twisting their meaning to interprete them as exhorting violence, maybe you can tell what other peaceful interpretations they have. Please, feel most welcome ! We are eagerly waiting to hear from you !

I knew oeople like you will call me anti-Islam. That is why I have carefully addressed such accusations already in the article. Please read it again.

If you call me "extremist" I am sorry I will have no option but to conclude that you are an Al Qaeda supporter. Only an Al Qaeda supporter could have conclused from my article something like that. Only an Al Qaeda supporter could have made such a vile and base accusation like you did.

If an Al Qaeda supporter like you calls me "extremist" I will proudly wear that label.

Al Qaeda supporter, just wait a few more years. The Civilized World wil defeat and obliterate forces of Evil like you. Just you wait.

If you are not an Al Qaeda supporter, please read my article again carefully. If you truly are not an Al Qaeda supporter you should realize your accusations against me (calling me "extremist" are false and meaningless. I will expect an apology.

Thanks and have a good day !

At 6:08 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

saying "
Al Qaeda supporter, just wait a few more years. The Civilized World wil defeat and obliterate forces of Evil like you. Just you wait."

is another kind of hypcracy!
tell me if those TALIBANS have killed more Americans or USA troops have killed more afghans??????


At 6:18 pm, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

Are you claiming USA has killed Afghan civilians, not terrorists ?

If so, please provide proof to support your claims.

Otherwise you would prove yourself not only an Al Qaeda supporter but also a liar, I'm very sorry to say.


At 11:03 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think either you have taken the meaning in the wrong context or otherwise have taken unreputable sources or have asked some unprofessional person to interperate koran.

In history when some hindu slaves wanted to convert to Islam they were tortured with exptremely inhumane methods so they wouldnt remain loyal to the religion and convert back to hinduism, many of these gave their lives to remain loyal for their religion.isn't this inhumane. many people in india still suffer from the inhumane caste system and some of them who are titled untouchables are suffering their life away.

In Islamic History many people were converted on their basis of understanding the religion. It says clearly in koran that you should try to convert a non-muslim through enlighting them not torturing, terrorism has merely taken away the rightful meaning and it seems to me you are doing everything to propagate this.

I have nothing against any religion. Living in a multicurtural society I have muslim, hindu, christian, jewish, buddhist and aethiest friends. however I get terribly hurt when people particularly who have no knowledge of our religion, culture and teachings misrepresent the religion and its people. I hope everyone trys to find the truth rather than believing these sorts of blogs and propaganda fuelled media, or the minority of people who spread terrorism in the name of religion.

Peace for all.

At 11:59 am, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

I have presented verses from Koran with verse numbers.

You have made vague claims with no evidence supporting your claims.

People will know whom to believe.


PS: Always people like you who defend Islam talk about "interpretation".

It is not possible to misinterprete words like "kill", "smite their necks", "smite their fingers" or "take their women" and suchlike.

They all have one unambiguous meaning each, both in English and in Arabic.

At 4:40 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whereever'kill,'smite their necks' are used, its when someone has attacked u. Since, u have cut the verses, it says to muslims not be agressors.

Anyway, Allah has promised hell for disbelievers. Dats for sure. No doubt about it. U cannot change even a single thing.

At 2:41 am, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

Anonymous said: "Anyway, Allah has promised hell for disbelievers. Dats for sure. No doubt about it. U cannot change even a single thing."

My response: Thank you for your comments, Mr bin Laden. Or is it "President" Ahmadinijad I am talking to ?

You Radical Islamist terrorists and terrorist-sympathizers will be speedily destroyed. Just wait and see, you moron.


At 12:21 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Islam, behind the curtain of "peace", requires the destruction of everything non-islamic. There are two sides: 1) those that feel its their calling to destroy anything non-islamic... and 2)those that agree with point #1 but don't think that time has yet come... HOWEVER, they tolerate those that believe point #1 even if they denounce it... the greatest deception is not going against religion - it's twisting religion just slightly so it's believable... and there lies the catch of "Islam"....

At 4:17 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

only our true lord and savior jesus christ can save you from the vast and growing torments of hell.

Those who pray to a false god and go against every thing god is will have there day of judgement.

God have mercy on there soles

At 3:24 pm, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

To the person who said:
> only our true lord and savior jesus
> christ can save you from the vast
> and growing torments of hell.

No offence, but you seem a bit ignorant about religions other than Christianity, to which it appears you belong. Have you read the Bible? Have you noticed that the teachings of the Bible (and even some stories, with names changed) are basically carbon-copies of what is written in the Hindu Bhagavad Gita and the Buddhist Tripitaka?

Christianity spread out from the Middle East to all over Asia and Europe under the reign of nominally Buddhist conqueror Chenghiz Khan. He used to wipe out Radical Islamists, but protected Christians only because Christianity is practically the same as Buddhism.

Who you call Christ is none other than whom Indians have known from 3000 years before you discovered him. He is called Lord Krishna.

> Those who pray to a false god and
> go against every thing god is
> will have there day of judgement.

Make sure you do not call Krishna a "false God". Christ would not be happy to hear that.

> God have mercy on there soles

Soles are the bottom parts of shoes. Souls are a different thing altogether.

At 1:01 pm, Blogger adnan said...

1. Definition of a Hindu
The word Hindu has geographical significance and was used originally for those people who lived beyond the river Sindhu or the region watered by the river Indus. Some historians say that it was first used by the Persians who came to India through the north western passes of the Himalayas. The word Hindu is no where mentioned in Indian literature or scriptures before the advent of Muslims to India, according to the Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics. According to Jawaharlal Nehru in the book Discovery of India on page 74-75, he writes that the earliest reference to the word Hindu can be traced to a tantrik of the 8th Century CE, where it means a people and not a follower of a particular religion. The use of the word Hindu in connection with a particular religion is of late occurrence.
In short Hindu is a geographical definition used for the people living beyond the river Indus or those living in India

At 1:02 pm, Blogger adnan said...

2. Definition of Hinduism
a) Hinduism has been derived from the word Hindu. Hinduism was a name given in English language in the Nineteenth Century by the English people to the multiplicity of the beliefs and faith of the people of the Indus land. According to New Encyclopedia Britannica 20:581. The British writers in 1830 gave the word Hinduism to be used as the common name for all the beliefs of the people of India excluding the Muslims and converted Christians.
b) The term Hinduism is misleading because though it suggests the unified system of beliefs and ideas, it is certainly not the case. Hinduism is too broad a phenomenon to be confined to a usual definitions of religions. It does not owe its origin, formation or finalization to any historical person or a prophet since there is no uniformly accepted belief sacraments, rituals and practices in Hinduism, there are no criteria for establishing rules in Hinduism. In short a person who calls himself a Hindu becomes a true practicing Hindu irrespective who he worships and what ever may be his beliefs and practice.
c) According to the Hindu scholars Hinduism is a misnomer and it should be referred a Sanatana Dharma, meaning eternal religion or Vedic Dharma meaning religion of the Veda. According to Swami Vivekananda the followers of this religion is referred as Vedantist.

At 1:39 pm, Blogger adnan said...

harsh you are doing a good job only few people go this deep but we should also work for universal brotherhood. if somthing wrong is done in the past we should not take revenge or make other people to do that.
We are son of one man and we are a big family having one father, let's stop hate and start loving.
If quran speaks about violence then there is bhagwad geeta also doing the same by asking to fight against their own brothers. if i say this i will be wrong because i am saying this out of context.
the bhagwad geeta is asking to fight against injustice wheather it be in the form of your brothers. in the same way quran also have verses that asks the belevers to fight against those who are doing injustice or stopping the justice.

do you know in indonesia and malasia where majority is of muslims. there was no army ever sent to convert them. this is hiistory..... think what makes them convert in large numbers to islam. Do you know that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world even today.
why is france so concerned about the conversion, who is making americans revert to islam think man think about it .
muslim rulers ruled india for around 800 years and they they have not converted india although they could have done it very easily you know how dictators con chnge things easily in their countries. they ruled spain for more than 800 years and yet you will find muslim in minority there. don't think that in those time people have rights like we have they are fully dependent on the rulers they cannot have survived long if the rulers have tried to converted them to islam.
quran is the word of God I beleive this becaus a person Muhammad (SAW) cannot read or write and he lived in a place where there are no teachers no schools people kill others for small things they were burrying their daughters alive in soil.
Muhammad (SAW) had not travelled for faraway places . and yet he has given the humanity the light he has given so many laws that USA has placed his statue among other great lawmakers.
the quran speaks about animal rights, human rights, basic values, it teaches so much that it has become american bestseller after 9/11. think about this a man who's father was dead dead before even he was born whose mother died when he was of the age of 6. there was his grandfather who took care of him after him, his uncle took his care.
think about it he has given so much that even Ghandhi ji says that his satyagrah was based on the teachings of Muhammad (SAW).
think again and i request you to read quran and say to God that show me the right path and give me the courage to follow it till death.
plz forgive me if you find me wrong anywhere i'm not a preacher or an athoritaive person but want to share my views.
some useful links:
this man is a genious on comparitive releigion studies.
you will love it

At 4:52 pm, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

adnan said:
muslim rulers ruled india for around 800 years and they they have not converted india although they could have done it very easily you know how dictators con chnge things easily in their countries. they ruled spain for more than 800 years and yet you will find muslim in minority there. don't think that in those time people have rights like we have they are fully dependent on the rulers they cannot have survived long if the rulers have tried to converted them to islam.

Radical Muslims like Aurangzeb, Allauddin Khiljee, and many others misruled India for 800 years, and destroyed thousands of Hindu Buddhist and Jain temples, and kidnapped, raped, tortured, and killed hundreds of millions of Hindus Buddhists and Jains.

Taking advantage of the tolerant and peace-loving nature of Hindus Buddhists and Jains, they tried their best to wipe out Hinduism and convert everyone to Islam.

They succeeded in doing so in parts of India, like the areas now known as Pakistan and Bangladesh, and also in Afghanistan, and Central Asia.

However, they failed to destroy Hinduism completely, as brave sons of Mother India like Chhatrapati Shivaji, Guru Gobind Singh, Guru Teg Bahadur, Rana Pratap, among hundreds of others, and their brave soldiers, kept fighting on an on and on, without end.

Bravery was shown not only by the Hindu and Sikh men, but also by women, like Maharani Padmini of Rajasthan.

The 1000-year-old war against Hinduism is still being waged by Radical Islamic terrorists like the people of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia who follow bin Laden.

They will not succeed.

We will win. Hinduism will prevail.

Radical Islam will be wiped out.

Harsh Vardhan

At 11:45 pm, Blogger Anshul said...

Just maybe, you need a better translation of Quran. Last I checked the top English translations of Quran totally contradicted each other. Quran is not an easy to translate and interpret work.

At 8:58 pm, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

Islamo-Fascist apologists always try to hide behind the "difficult to translate" and "easy to misinterprete" excuses.

Please do not fall for such excuses. The Koran was not written yesterday; and Arabic is not a particularly difficult language.

The Koran talks about violence, breaking people's fingers and necks, and converting or killing unbelievers, all the time, verse after verse after verse. Please do not insult our intelligence by suggesting that all those are really instances of calls for peace and brotherhood and love and happiness that we are misunderstanding as talking about breaking fingers, killing, rape, murder, and torture.


At 4:03 am, Blogger Anshul said...

I am not a Muslim. And I do not sympathize with Islamo-fascists.

I am not saying Quran is a peaceful text. It certainly is not. But, neither are Bible and (to a lesser degree perhaps) Gita.

I did some search and found out that these excerpts originally come from this translation.

That is a book called "The Qur'an with Annotated Interpretation in Modern English" by "Ali Unal" and is the last item on the wikipedia list of lesser known English translations of Quran.

It's a Sunni translation according to some sources and I really don't know how good or bad it is.

I won't waste any more of my afternoon on this. Enjoy your hatred.

At 11:57 am, Blogger Harsh Vardhan said...

Dear Anshul,

If you are implying that the translation I have provided is wrong, I challenge you to provide me and other readers of this blog with credible and non-violent english translations of the verses I have mentioned in the post above. I challenge you that you will be unable to do so.

Something that says "break the necks of unbelievers" in Arabic simply can't be translated into "love thy neighbour".

Secondly, you have implied that Bhagavad Gita preaches violence as well, albeit to a lesser degree. I challenge you to produce a single verse from Bhagavad Gita which preaches violence against people solely because they follow a different religion.

I have read the entire Bhagavad Gita many times, so I know you will miserably fail to produce such a verse.

The Bhagavad Gita does not preach violence. There is no comparison between Gita and Koran or Bible.

Much smarter people than you will ever be, Einstein, Thoreau, Emerson, Hesse, to name a few, have read the Gita and said this.

You are calling me a hate-mongerer even though I have only written factual truths you can verify anywhere.

Please have the decency to acknowledge your mistake. If you are really named Anshul, and not Mohammed Anshulullah or something like that, I believe you will.

Otherwise, enjoy your hypocrisy.


At 12:02 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Harsh Varshan", I find you quite hilarious - you seem VERY fickle. Hahaha. Thanks for making me laugh!!

At 12:22 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them.

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)........................ These things actualy show that Kuran was written by uncivilised people... no wonder that Democracy has not worked for muslim world.. as there is no scope for debate.. they only encourage bloodshed.... What a shame.

At 12:13 am, Blogger Mayan2012 said...

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can.
When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not Canadians. Can you clarify?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

....as you can see any religious book, including the bible can be violent, unkind, and just not very nice! It is all in the way it is interpreted.
God Bless all people...

At 3:36 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...


At 1:45 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha democracy hasn't worked anywhere ever. We are a republic. read the pledge of allegiance or something.

Islam as a religion is a violent religion. this is not to say that all Islamic people are violent or believe all of the Quran. You say that your Muslim friends are not violent and therefore the religion isn't but think about this. The verse says that anyone who is a friend of a non Muslim is himself not a believer. Your Muslim friends by definition don't believe the Quran well enough to follow it.

We never claimed that the Bible was a non-violent book. I am a Christian and I will tell you that the Bible is a very violent book (though not so much that we kill all nonbelievers). It is a just violence against sin, with reasonable laws and standards to govern it.

Harsh, thanks alot for posting this it was an interesting read.

At 6:27 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I m a muslim and posting u this comment read it carefully b coz it may change urs life
Thanx for reading only "some"
verses from kuran but i think so as a muslim not but as a man search for true god
I m a science student
I from my child hood really thinking that is the kuran really a gods word
U havent really read the kuran as a "whole" or the verses before and after these verses
These verses areaccording to the situations at the time of the prophet SAW(pbuh)

At 3:31 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is your opinion about the teachings of Jesus Christ and how much would it make the living of the human kind better if followed.
I am not for any religion but interested in searching a way in which every human being takes pleasure of the nature which is free to all and die naturally.
I like your efforts and love for our country and all its people.

At 3:32 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is your opinion about the teachings of Jesus Christ and how much would it make the living of the human kind better if followed.
I am not for any religion but interested in searching a way in which every human being takes pleasure of the nature which is free to all and die naturally.
I like your efforts and love for our country and all its people.

At 11:52 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am an atheist so please no religious hate towards me. Mr.Harsh I find your criticism very unfair. I have read the bible and the koran in detail and if anythign the bible is as violent as the koran is. It( the bible) promotes slavery , violence, homophobia, religious persecution. I do agree that the bhagvad gita makes much more sense from a philosophical point of view. But the koran is not any more violent than the bible is. History has shown that the so called followers of the Lord have committed heinous crimes in his name. The crusades and death of innocent muslim pilgrims at the hands of reynold de chattelion come to mind. The ethnic cleansing of muslims in bosnia comes to mind when christians have been the terrorists and muslims the victims. Christian nations are very powerful at this time and they do villify other religions. Their own religion is very cruel and hellish if you read the bible.
Also to give you some flak to your blind championing of the hindu book. Please pardon me for any offense that I cause. Havent most of the pandavas killed the kaurawas in unfair ways. All this fighting was ultimately done only for a throne was it not? Is that justice to kill millions of innocent soldiers for a throne. Do you see a parallel between killing people who do not support your right to the kingdom and the muslim and christian belief of killing the non believers. Was Dronacharyas killing not unfair. Was shooting arrows from behind an eunach to kill the great Bhisma not unfair. Was the curse to karna for making sure that his Guru did not wake up not unfair. Was not lord Krishnas command to kill karna when he had his chariot wheel stuck in the mud unfair. Yes you might say that he killed arjunas son in an unfair way. But that is an extension of violence begets violence principle that you so seem to despise in Islam. After all from my reading of the mahabharata I find no character half as noble as Karna or Bhisma. Karna a man who upheld the friendship of a person who held his hand in his time of need and gave up his life instead of choosing to be the king of hastinaputra - was he not a great human being. Karna the person who gave up his armour to Indra knowing fully that he would die in the battle - was he not a great person. Karna the man who remained the son of a charioteer instead of being king of hastinapur - was it right for lord krishna to have him killed in such a way. Lets not even talk about how great Bhisma was and whether he deserved to be killed in such a way. Notice how nothing has been said about the sins of Arjuna who called karna a son of a charioteer. He did not go to heaven because he was vain not because he was a caste bigot. What about draupadi's comment about duryodhana that a blind man's son is a blind man. She did not go to heaven because she was partial towards arjuna not because she was insulting. Whatabout Yudhisthira he gambled away his wife and family and you know what he went to heaven directly. Are we supposed to assume that Hinduism teaches us to gamble our wives and family ?? What of Lord Krishnas infinite politics and the unfair advantages that he bestowed upon the pandavas, including tricking duryodhana to wear a loin cloth and telling bheema to hit duryodhana illegally. And in the hindu book we have seen all people killed in war go to the heavens. Including duryodhana. Are we supposed to assume that hindu religion promotes jingoism, violence and warfare since all battle martyrs go to heaven whether they were right or wrong.
All religions have scope for critisicm and more often than not religions are championed blindly. I cannot say this for sure but if you were born in saudi arabia and were called mohammed i think you would have come and abused "harsh" for critizcising Islam. Killing is wrong - as a human being i think intelligence should be our guide. I am sure most muslim people dont want to kill even if their book tells them to. Same goes for christians. And like you said Hinduism, Budhism and jainism do have very little scope for violence. If you somehow came across a verse in the Gita saying kill people of other religions I am sure you would give it no credence. Lets hope as a species we have enough intelligence to know what is right and what is wrong without falling back always on books which have been written thousands of years ago. Have a nice day. Like I said I am an atheist so please dont accuse me of championing any religion. I dont find any religion satisfactory least of all islam and christianity.

At 10:23 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the person trying to compare the bible with the koran... the koran doesnt have a new testament... those were old laws of the old time that were corrected. Spin more.

At 4:27 am, Blogger Rhythm Divine said...

Its a gr8 work done but everything has negative stuff, be it Hindu, Muslim, Christian or anybody else. Th

At 11:07 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am confused

At 12:47 pm, Blogger khartoum said...

I do not in any fashion believe that Islam is a religion of peace. I am not a person making rash judgment about things, but a man of proof and evidence.

If facts do matter and if we are going to be honest about it, then there is no way on earth somebody can claim to be a good muslim (a Quran following person) and a rational individual at the same time.

Although its true that anything taken on faith has to be violent (given the fact that one abdicates the final court of appeal as reality), religion is usually considered to be a private affair which is the reason why the modern State calls for a "wall of separation" between religion and politics.

However, neither Hinduism nor Christianity calls upon believers as a duty to impose their religious law upon other fellow beings as Islam explicitly does. I would like to refer you to this excellent documentary for some further study into the subject --


(Also do check out Jihadwatch.org for some great clarity on the subject)

If evidence is what we are concerned about, then there is no way we can imagine a person to be rational and a good muslim in the same breath. If a person, for instance, were uphold the life of Prophet Muhammad as supreme -- then he would be forced to consider the fact that Prophet himself killed about 800 people and married a girl named Aisha when she was 6 and consummated the marraige when she was 9. I cannot imagine how, given such a mess, one could use Islam as a guide to modern life.

The words of the philosopher-novelist Ayn Rand are chillingly true given today's intellectual state when she said almost 50 years ago,

"Faith and force . . . are corollaries: every period of history dominated by mysticism, was a period of statism, of dictatorship, of tyranny."

At 4:41 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

first off.. You should keep the topic relatively small so that there can be debate on specific topics.. with u quoting there cannot be any discussion.... most of the verses u have quoted have been widely discussed at many forums.. why dont't also publish a link to the rebuttals and let the people decide what is right and what is wrong.. This is one site where a lot fo the verses r explained from a muslim perspective..u may find it worht a read atleast..


There is not end of spreading hate. its alwasy easier.. How abt trying to find a coomon ground for a change and trying to take the world forward ...

At 12:43 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the writer who quotes the old testament of the Christian Bible, Let me say this. While clearly there are odd and seemingly uncaring Christian religious writings, primarily in the old Testament, There is no where that believers are exhorted to kill subdue and rape any specific group of people. And even if you can find some deeply buried verse You will not find daily incidents around the globe of people using that verse to justify their violence in the 21st century. The koran is saturated with these exhortations to violence just as the soil of the earth is saturated with the blood let by its loyal followers.

At 4:43 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Harsh;

It is not a good behaviour to extract and twist the verses from Quran before investigating and analyzing them in depth.

If you put forth what you had, we will answer you with these;

"Those who, if We give them power in the land, establish prescribed prayers (SALAH) and pay the poor-due (ZAKAH) and enjoin right conduct and forbid evil. And with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs." [Noble Quran 22:41].

"The wrong ones are those who treat the people unjustly, and resort to aggression without provocation. These have incurred a painful retribution"(verse 42:42

"Let there be NO COMPULSION in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand- hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things"(verse 2:256)

[9:13-14] Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, and they are the ones WHO STARTED THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE? Are you afraid of them? GOD is the One you are supposed to fear, if you are believers. You shall fight them, for GOD will punish them at your hands, humiliate them, grant you victory over them, and cool the chests of the believers.

Taking out some parts from verses or trying to comment on them without understanding what lies beneath is not a method that a clever human should do.

In Islam, aggression is Forbidden. Fighting is permitted only in self-defence.

This is not only told but LIVED which one can see if he has read about the life of our prophet Muhammed.During the conquest of Mecca what is told? "The ones who stays at their homes will be safe, the ones at Abu Sufyans home will be safe. Dont touch the old, the women and the children at all costs".

In Taif city, when the prophet arrived there to spread the word, the nobles of that city made the poor and children throw rocks at him. He BLED. And the Gabriel came to him saying "The messenger of Allah-God!, Allah says if you wish, just tell me and I will crush this city and his folk between these 2 mountains" and Muhammed (pbuh) said "No.They do not know.Maybe they will learn some day and pray the God".

Number of examples like above easily be increased.

Please tell me then, how you can you say that Islam is not a religion of peace? I leave it to your able minds for understanding. But "to read" is absolutely necessary.


At 11:54 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All the major religions of the world have prescribed fighting, at sometime or the other, especially in self-defence or for fighting against oppression.
Mahabharata is an epic and sacred Scripture of the Hindus, which mainly deals with a fight between the cousins, the Pandavas and the Kauravas. In the battlefield Arjun prefers not to fight and be killed rather than having his conscience burdened with the killing of his relatives. At this moment, Krishna advises Arjun in the battlefield and this advice is contained in the Bhagvad Gita. There are several verses in the Bhagvad Gita where Krishna advises Arjun to fight and kill the enemies even though they are his relatives.

When we start quoting without reading the whole context, it will give a wrong information.
for eg:
Krishna says in Bhagvad Gita Chapter 2 verse 33
“If however, you do not fight this religious war, then you will certainly incur sin, for neglecting your duties, and thus loose your reputation as a fighter”.

christian has crusaders, jews have the knights of templars and muslims has jihad. Islam is the only religion presently being misrepresented in the whole world. erroneous image of Islam by stereotyping all Muslims as being fundamentalists. Why dont people see what is happening around afghanistan, pakistan, iraq, indonesia and palestine. Killing civilians in the name of terrorism. if no one is protecting these civilians what is other option other than fight. when we watch movies we are ok when the hero is getting the hell out of villian when the heroin get teased but when it comes to reality we are against it. What a time are we living!!!!


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